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Post by catsanddogs on Aug 16, 2015 20:37:51 GMT
Albert and Paxti payed full on, without toys, this evening. I'd taken Louis' muzzle off earlier. All very, very good until Paxti got a leg sprain. Probably caused by Albert being at least twice the size, but he'd been pulling his 'punches' magnificently. The main thing is that Paxti barked and sort of half heartedly lunged at Albert, but.... Albert wasn't worried, so sensed no ill intent, Paxti let me feel his leg and within a minute, it was all over. Not a hint of red-zoning,,, at the risk of sounding like Mr Milan. Good day. No blood. Headache's gone. Louis with a muzzle on and Paxti without Sent from my Nexus 7 using proboards
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2015 20:53:03 GMT
See? Not just the dog that's confused!
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Post by rowlfsmum on Aug 17, 2015 7:07:10 GMT
Maybe you should double barrel it - Louis-paxchi!!! Well done Simon sounds as tho things are heading in the right direction. Glad the headache went.
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Post by loosecannon on Aug 17, 2015 7:14:00 GMT
He's been Barker couple of times this morning. Treble barrelled name?
I think he'll be limited to house, garden and work for a while. Way too much excitement just walk done the road.
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Post by loosecannon on Aug 17, 2015 12:53:11 GMT
First [part] day at work. Tough. Gruelling. Exhausting. As for Paxti...
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Post by loosecannon on Aug 19, 2015 10:45:33 GMT
Some very good progress with Paxti. He's simply so very un-socialised, not knowing doggy and household etiquettes. The inappropriate barking is just one such matter. He's doing less, getting over enthusiastic slower and less frequently and not barking-barking-barking much at all. However, we are avoiding the triggers! He's house bound, rear garden only unsupervised, front garden needs total supervision. Or at work, like today, and this time without Albert, just him, me and my colleagues. He's doing so well, I might take him for a walk at lunchtime. Just down the road outside work. Not much happens, as it's a commercial area. But we know that it doesn't take much to send him into a barking, lunging frenzy. Being with other dogs is also very helpful. They go quiet, he, eventually, follows suit. Albert's very willing to play and he can also correct him and get him to stop. Us humans are becoming more able to do so. After pee/poo trip and several play sessions, without barking fits, he took himself back to bed: Edit: Forgot to mention that I've given up trying to call him Louis. It kept getting stuck between brain and mouth and at the moment of delivery, Patchy, Paxi, Potty or the like came out Considering how much time it seems I'll be spending with him, for now, I've decided to stick with Paxti, or however one spells it. He doesn't care about the spelling,,, I'm assuming, as he answers to some that sounds like Patchy.
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Post by Socksmum on Aug 19, 2015 10:52:06 GMT
Great news, it's good to see how Paxti is coming along with new boundaries and plenty of socialisation. Thanks for giving this boy what he needs xx
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Post by rowlfsmum on Aug 19, 2015 11:32:48 GMT
Sounds like you are beginning to get somewhere with Paxti step by step. It will be a shame if his mentor Albert goes off to a new home soon.
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Post by han on Aug 19, 2015 11:50:04 GMT
Great update and always a good sign when they take themselves off to bed
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2015 12:39:11 GMT
As you know, it's after the first week or so that they start to settle and you can see more of what their character is and what their issues are. He'll benefit greatly from your persistence and awareness of what is going on in his little head and what he needs to control those triggers. I agree on the name... I still think of him as Patchy (with the English spelling) and when he gets rehomed it will be confusing for the poor thing to get yet another name if he's had to learn to respond to Patchy, then Louis then possibly something else! He's having enough problems with his identity, poor little boy! Well done for helping him Simon!
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Post by Romi on Aug 19, 2015 14:51:53 GMT
Well done Simon, sounds like your hard work is paying off. And I am with Christine on the name - he is Patchy to me, or I keep having a pax-tee thing going on in my head.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2015 17:30:00 GMT
Agree, keep his name otherwise he's got too much to cope with. Glad he's with you and getting help.
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Post by Romi on Aug 21, 2015 6:43:13 GMT
Simon popped round yesterday with "Patchy" and Albert. Both dogs met my lot (one by one) out in the garden offlead and Patchy hardly barked at all. They all had a good old sniff and a peeing contest and then a quick zoomy around. Bella told Albert off for sticking his cold wet nose where it wasn't wanted, but apart from that peace reigned supreme.
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Post by rowlfsmum on Aug 21, 2015 6:57:18 GMT
Great progress!
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Post by Romi on Aug 21, 2015 7:02:59 GMT
I think Patchy's behaviour very much depends on the demeanour of the dogs he encounters. On the SLR walk there were a few very barky excited hounds who really set him off and he just flipped. If he spends time with quiet "unflappable" hounds he takes his cue from them and relaxes. Also I think his being off the lead made a difference - something that obviously can't be done outside the confines of an enclosed garden or field.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2015 7:32:58 GMT
Sounds like progress is being made and Patchy has the potential to be a lovely little hound. Well done everyone, especially Simon and Helen, for taking the time and making the effort to help him sort out his issues. I predict he is going to make someone a great dog.
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Post by catsanddogs on Aug 21, 2015 7:37:03 GMT
I think Patchy's behaviour very much depends on the demeanour of the dogs he encounters. On the SLR walk there were a few very barky excited hounds who really set him off and he just flipped. If he spends time with quiet "unflappable" hounds he takes his cue from them and relaxes. Also I think his being off the lead made a difference - something that obviously can't be done outside the confines of an enclosed garden or field. I agree, Ella behaves differently with different dogs. With our two oldies at home she is quiet except when George gets excited at the front door. She also reacts to other dogs when on lead more when she hears rocky start barking. Today we happily walked past Molly the bloodhound, as we do most days, then the Rockster started to bark and Ella was looking to see what he was barking at and getting worked up. Today she didn't manage to work out it was Molly so was a bit bemused
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Post by loosecannon on Aug 21, 2015 9:44:19 GMT
I wasn't expecting to let Patxi out of the car, only visiting Romi to handover some SLR stock (excess from Basingstoke dog club event) and some handy work for Romi to help with. However, he did not bark or get agitated at all when hearing the Romi Pack through the treble glazing....
On lead, into the house and immediately passed the lounge door, with the howling mass just the other side. Patxi didn't react with more than a little interest and a few under-his-breath half barks. I was expecting to have made a swift retreat already, but no,,, moving onto the garden. Then each and every dog came out, one by one. I didn't see any over reaction when sniffing all the doggy bits.
I wouldn't have done this following the email correspondence I went through yesterday evening. The dog behaviourist that met with Patxi (then Louis) last week, recommend 3 weeks without any dog interaction and avoiding all stimuli. Shows how the environment, the nature of the hounds and humans, and what's going on in the dog's mind leading up to and at the point of 'contact', can really confuse the picture. It's not clear exactly what Patxi's triggers are.
He was left alone, in effect, this morning, while I took the other 3 for a walk. Helen was upstairs, ignoring him. He cried and pawed at the window as we went out the gate. However, Helen reported that he stopped quickly and she didn't hear a peep until we got back. And, to our surprise, he hadn't spent his quiet time destroying something!
What an interesting Jekyll 'n' Hyde.
I'm working at home today and the only drama is me getting really pissed of with Windows 10 messing with my mind! ARRGH! Sorted now,,, hence a break on the forum. Back to it... The dogs are all smoozed out on sofa or bed.
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Post by rowlfsmum on Aug 21, 2015 10:29:08 GMT
Romi's pack are really calm. Even Rowlf is usually calm with them.
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Post by loosecannon on Aug 24, 2015 13:12:24 GMT
This was not when the postman arrived this afternoon or when the local fox hunting pack [30-40 hounds, with out riders on bike and horse] went by first thing this morning. Apart from those two events today and a few times getting hyper with, or more like, at Abert, Patxi's being very calm today. However, even in the state/position in the photo, you can tell by his eyes that he's not truly relaxed. Slowly and steadily better, but not yet ever fully chillaxed.
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